Detailed Meeting Summary/Minutes McAllen, TX 2004

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
GOOD NEIGHBOR ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD
Board Meeting
Holiday Inn Convention Center
McAllen, Texas
June 9-10, 2004
Meeting Summary/ Minutes of the
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
Good Neighbor Environmental Board
Board Meeting
Holiday Inn Convention Center
McAllen, Texas
June 9-10, 2004
Meeting Participants
Board Members and Alternates Present
- Placido Dos Santos, Arizona Department of Environmental Quality - Chair
- Dora Alcala, Mayor, Del Rio, Texas
- Larry Allen, Malpai Borderlands Group
- Diana Borja, Office of Border Affairs, Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ)
- Gedi Cibas, Border Coordinator, New Mexico Environment Department
- Paul Ganster, San Diego State University
- Valecia Gavin, President, Border Environmental Health Coalition, Doña Ana County, New Mexico
- John Klein, U.S. Geological Survey, Department of Interior
- William Luthans, EPA Region 6 (official Alternate for Laura Yoshii)
- Christine Machion, Department of Housing and Urban Development (official Alternate for Shannon Sorzano)
- Jacob Macias, State of Arizona Economic Development Representative, Economic Developmental Section, U.S. Department of Commerce (official Alternate for Len Smith)
- Thomas Mampilly, Department of Health and Human Services (official Alternate for Dick Walling)
- Ben Muskovitz, U.S. Department of State, Office of Mexican Affairs (official Alternate for Dennis Linskey)
- Ken Ramirez, lawyer (water rights, environmental), Austin
- Doug Smith, Corporate Environmental Affairs, Sony Electronics
- Sally Spener, Public Affairs Officer, U.S. Section, International Boundary and Water Commission (official Alternate for Arturo Duran)
- Nancy Sutley, California State Water Resources Control Board, Sacramento
- Robert Varady, Deputy Director, Udall Center for Public Policy, University of Arizona
Board Members' Colleagues
- Mitch Batuzich, Federal Highway Administration, Department of Transportation (colleague of Linda Lawson)
- Ken Cronin, Environment Specialist, Tohono O'odham Nation (colleague of Ned Norris)
- Rafael Guerrero, Natural Resources Conservation Service, Department of Agriculture (colleague of Rosendo Trevino)
EPA Staff
- Geraldine Brown, OCEM
- Oscar Carrillo, GNEBAssociate Designated Federal Officer
- Elaine Koerner, GNEB Designated Federal Officer
- Celia Rivas, Student Intern
- Lois Williams, OCEM
Speakers and Attendees
- Randy Blankinship, Lower Laguna Madre Ecosystem Leader, Coastal Fisheries Division, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department
- Oscar Cabra, North American Development Bank (NADBank)
- Walter Cleo, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department
- Tyrus Fain, President, Rio Grande Institute
- Genoveva Gomez, Director of Water/Wastewater Engineering and Operations, Brownsville Public Utilities Board
- J. Arturo Herrara Solis, Commissioner, Mexican Section, International Boundary and Water Commission (IBWC)
- Glenn Jarvis, Law Offices of Glenn Jarvis
- Juan Miguel Minana, Rio Grande Watershed Council, State of Tamaulipas, Irrigation District 025
- Leo Montalvo, Mayor of McAllen, Texas
- Andres Ochoa, Northeast Consejo, State President for the Engineering and Environmental Society, Ciudad Victoria, Tamaulipas
- Elvira Ries, McAllen resident
- Carlos Rubinstein, Rio Grande Water Master, TCEQ
Detailed Meeting Summary, June 9-10, 2004
Background
The Good Neighbor Environmental Board (the Board) is an Environmental
Protection Agency (EPA) independent advisory committee. It advises
the U.S. President and Congress on good-neighbor practices along the
U.S.-Mexico border. The focus is on the environmental infrastructure
needs of the U.S. states that are contiguous to Mexico.
Day 1 - June 9, 2004
Greetings
Chairman Placido Dos Santos welcomed Board members, speakers and members
of the public, all of whom introduced themselves. He introduced the
meeting theme of water management, which is in preparation for the
Board's Eighth report for the President and Congress on border-region
water issues. He also wished a happy birthday to McAllen Mayor Leo
Montalvo.
Mr. Montalvo welcomed the Board and applauded their efforts, which he described as yeoman's work. He discussed some health and water issues facing the area, which has seen a lot of growth on the Mexican side of the border. He encouraged looking at regional cooperation among municipalities and water providers.
Water Management Presentations
Presentation 1: Water Master's Perspective: Rio Grande Management
Carlos Rubinstein, Water Master, TCEQ
Mr. Rubinstein discussed the management of the Rio Grande waters below
Fort Quitman, Texas. The Water Master Program grew out of a lawsuit
in the 1950s, filed after an irrigation district diverted water on
its way to a municipality. The courts took possession of all waters
at the Falcon Reservoir at that time and created the program. When
Texas was part of Spain, water in the Rio Grande was allocated by the
king and attached to land and land grants. Then this was mixed with
English law, and the results did not work for the state. The court-established
system vacated existing water rights and granted new priorities based
on historical and beneficial use, with a special classification of
water rights for municipalities, which are guaranteed with a one-year
reserve that is reassessed every month. There is no guarantee for irrigation
water.
Mr. Rubinstein said the system works well, is drought-driven and drought-responsive, and allows for a very active water market. It treats the Amistad and Falcon reservoirs as one system (Falcon loses more water to evaporation, he said). The system allows for a conversion process, though conversion comes at a price. As cities occupy space previously used for farming, irrigable acreage is reduced. But the water saved is now municipal-use and must be guaranteed, so the value of the water under the transferred right is reduced to 40 or 50 percent, depending on the previous classification of the right.
There is a reserve to cover evaporation losses, but the system does not have a reserve to cover losses from inefficiencies in distribution canals of irrigation districts; the districts pay for those inefficiencies, which have to do with terrain (high clay content in the soil, for example) and the investment in improving the districts' infrastructure.
Mr. Rubinstein said there is a binational working relationship at the local level, with data shared equally, completely and daily. Water master deputies check the river daily to make sure water is being diverted at the rate and quantity authorized. Mr. Rubinstein said the level of compliance from users, who fund the program, is astronomical.
Questions and Comments
Mr. Ganster: Has there been any discussion about enabling some sort of
contractual arrangements for transfers from one country to the other?
Mr. Rubinstein: There are transfers that occur already, mainly from Mexico
to the United States. and there was a minute order signed in 1995 to
allow Texas to transfer water to Mexico through the IBWC to address a
potential municipal emergency (in the end, it was not needed). But there
is nothing at the private level.
Ms. Sutley: Have you ever considered water quality or, for example,
habitat for endangered species in the allocation? Also, do you allow
for long-term transfers of water?
Mr. Rubinstein: When we try to discuss environmental flows and those
considerations, we need to do it at an international level. Absent that,
you would be placing the burdens wholly on one country or another. It
is not uncommon to have water supply corporations enter into long-term
water delivery contracts with municipalities. The agreement is between
them, but we are the ones that actually move the water, and the water
is moved as it is needed. Think of it as a bank moving funds.
Mr. Ramirez: How would a new industry wanting to move into the valley
go about securing water supply since there is no water right available?
Mr. Rubinstein: Industrial water comes from the same pool as municipal
water, which would promote and should assist in the promotion of economic
development of the valley. You go buy an irrigation right, and rather
than convert it to municipal, you convert it to industrial. The smart
thing to do would be to convert it to multi-use, municipal and industrial.
The price and process are the same, and the guarantee would be the same
as a municipal guarantee.
Mr. Muskovitz: Is the market price for water affected by quality? Also,
as we have investment reducing the loss of water, is there a correlation
with the price?
Mr. Rubinstein: There is a correlation as demand goes, when you improve
efficiency—if a farmer can buy less water and yet maintain the
same quantity, for example. Water quality is not an issue on setting
the price.
Mr. Cibas: Are there mechanisms, in some manner of legal mechanisms
used in international law, to ensure accuracy is maintained if data is
found to be inaccurate?
Mr. Rubinstein: The mechanism is the IBWC itself. We share the same monitoring
stations and communicate decisions immediately. We have the same ability
to look at each other's data.
Mr. Dos Santos: Who sets the price of water?
Mr. Rubinstein: The market, the demand.
Mr. Dos Santos: But the municipal sector is paying as much as $2,000
per acre-foot for a long-term right. What about the possibility of leases
to encourage—even if it is a temporary transfer of rights—a
conversion of use? Also, if an agricultural entity gets off of surface
waters, do they have the opportunity to drill wells?
Mr. Rubinstein: Yes, but the quality of our groundwater is suspect at
best. And to make a distinction, you cannot do a direct comparison of
the price on wet water versus the paper right. There is a lot that goes
into that $2,000 price. The biggest part of it is that it is a guaranteed
right.
Presentation 2: Water Management in Mexico
J. Arturo Herrera Solis, Commissioner, Mexican Section, International
Boundary and Water Commission (IBWC)
Mr. Herrera, delivering his presentation in Spanish, outlined the framework
of water management in Mexico. Its National Water Commission (CNA) is
responsible for setting policies for the beneficial uses of the country's
water resources. The issue has grown more important, and not only in
the border region. If it is considered a national security issue, it
requires national attention. The 1944 treaty not only tries to distribute
water between the two countries; it also creates a bilateral instrument
and allows us to build infrastructure to develop the facility in the
border region. Government institutions have seen the challenge of how
to make information on water management more accessible. The Mexican
and U.S. sections have a website with a great amount of data from more
than 40 monitoring stations in both countries, something Mr. Herrera said he has not seen in any other border. Mr.
Herrera said recent drought
conditions were a learning experience for both countries, and he stressed
the importance of collaboration and of looking to the future to meet
long-term needs. He said the environment is last in water distribution
and that environmental aspects need to be considered.
Questions and Comments
Mr. Ganster: The question is what kind of administrative mechanism can
be developed to effectively manage a binational watershed on that scale?
Is that something the CILA/IBWC is prepared to undertake? Or do we
need to invent something new?
Mr. Herrera thought we have lost a lot of time trying to create institutions,
and we have lost sight that everything evolves. He said binational interests
could be addressed with the national commission as a link, recommending
good policies with the present institutions.
Mr. Guerrero said it was important to include the U.S. Department of Agriculture in the Rio Grande Summit (Mr. Herrera agreed) and asked about the invasive species tamarisk. Mr. Herrera said, among other efforts, there is a workgroup on invasive species that includes the State of Texas.
J. Arturo Herrera Solis, Commissioner, Mexican Section, International
Boundary and Water Commission (IBWC)
Mr. Herrera, delivering his presentation in Spanish, outlined the framework
of water management in Mexico. Its National Water Commission (CNA) is
responsible for setting policies for the beneficial uses of the country's
water resources. The issue has grown more important, and not only in
the border region. If it is considered a national security issue, it
requires national attention. The 1944 treaty not only tries to distribute
water between the two countries; it also creates a bilateral instrument
and allows us to build infrastructure to develop the facility in the
border region. Government institutions have seen the challenge of how
to make information on water management more accessible. The Mexican
and U.S. sections have a website with a great amount of data from more
than 40 monitoring stations in both countries, something Mr. Herrera said he has not seen in any other border. Mr.
Herrera said recent drought
conditions were a learning experience for both countries, and he stressed
the importance of collaboration and of looking to the future to meet
long-term needs. He said the environment is last in water distribution
and that environmental aspects need to be considered.
Presentation 3: NADBank-funded Water Conservation Projects
Oscar Cabra, North American Development Bank (NADBank)
Mr. Cabra: In addition to the investment in Mexico and the infrastructure
program, NADBank also has a technical assistance program focused on
providing technical assistance in Mexico related to water conservation.
Agricultural producers are generally the largest consumers of water
in the border region, and many experts agree that application of the
improved technology and changes in practice, particularly in the agricultural
sector, could save significant amounts of water in both countries.
The saved water could be put to a range of uses, including compliance
with the 1944 treaty obligations. Mexico intends to carry out a conservation
program to modernize irrigation districts and promote conservation
in border communities. To help finance this and conservation projects
on the U.S. side, the two governments agreed to support the use of
NADBank resources. NADBank's Water Conservation Investment Fund
(WCIF) has $40 million for each country for conservation projects,
which must be certified by the Border Environment Cooperation Commission
(BECC). Public sector bodies, irrigation districts, and other quasi-governmental
bodies could be recipients. Several studies by the CNA and the Instituto
Mexicano de Tecnologia de Agua (IMTA) indicate that a significant water
savings could be realized in irrigation district 005, in Delicias,
Chihuahua. In both countries, it has been important to accommodate
the construction of infrastructure with the agricultural planting season,
and not to disrupt that. The Bank's investment is focused on
canal lining and piping, land grading, and low- and high-pressure systems.
Construction in Delicias started in November 2003.
The board also authorized $5 million from the Bank's undesignated retained earnings to technical assistance for water conservation exclusively in Mexico to advance both technological and management tools, particularly in the Río Conchos. The objectives were to create a framework to capture and analyze the data, to improve the decision-making on the Bravo and Conchos water resources, to update policies and procedures in systems that improve the management of those two rivers, and to evaluate groundwater resources for continued reliability and as emergency supplies. Mr. Cabra summarized the studies funded so far, including one to create a Río Bravo basin database for integration into the CNA's GIS system. More information is available on the Bank's website.
Questions and Comments
Mr. Guerrero: When these projects are done, who will own the systems
and who will be responsible for operations and management? Also, aside
from the research and data, is there any technical assistance for the
farmers to develop and implement irrigation water management practices
on their particular place? And did you consider soil surveys as part
of the studies that need to be done so farmers understand how to manage
with those different soil types?
Mr. Cabra: In Mexico, it is owned by the CNA, in conjunction with the
irrigation district; in the U.S. each district owns its own infrastructure.
In Mexico CNA is the ultimate decision maker, but within the districts
there are modelos, basically sub-irrigation districts, and they make
decisions within the modelo. The studies are not really research studies.
We will have information that will show water losses—from evaporation,
inefficiency, clandestine use—and we are very optimistic that the
$5 million investment will result in operational type of data that will
give Mexico the ability to have a good handle on their water losses and
how much water they have.
Mr. Varady: Has the Bank tried to estimate the potential for savings
over the entire border area? And has there been any way or attempt to
measure the effectiveness of spending a dollar for conservation versus
spending a dollar for more traditional ways to develop new sources of
water?
Mr. Cabra: The Bank is not involved in either of those efforts. We are
a financing institution. One of the criteria was the cost per water saved,
but with regards to the Bank participating in any analytical type efforts
in response to question two, no.
Mr. Dos Santos: Who will be assessing the actual conservation associated
with these investments after they are done?
Mr. Cabra: That responsibility will lie with the individual irrigation
districts with regards to assessing the amount of water; in Mexico it
would be the CNA.
Mr. Dos Santos: If the Bank is providing the funding, will they budget
something to do a technical assessment after the fact?
Mr. Cabra: Yes. On both sides of the border we have hired a lending supervisor—we
contract out for a consulting firm that will augment our resources to
oversee our investment. At the end of the construction period we have
a closeout procedure by which we evaluate what was funded indeed was
what happened.
Ms. Spener: For the Conchos and Delicias irrigation improvements there is a provision through IBWC Minute that the IBWC will provide oversight. We will inspect to ensure conveyance of conserved water to the Rio Grande because of the treaty implications.
Mr. Ganster: Is there consideration given to what the effect of water
conservation will be or might be on maintaining ecosystems? For example,
in the Imperial Valley seepage has established ecosystems that have become
homes to endangered species. If you line canals to conserve water, you
have a whole other set of issues to deal with.
Mr. Cabra: One of the criteria for BECC certification is to assess the
environmental impact.
Ms. Sutley: For projects on the U.S. side, can you provide 100 percent
of the money, or do you require any kind of local contribution or match?
Mr. Cabra: The maximum was $4 million or 50 percent, but no more than
$4 million.
Good Neighbor Board Member Federal Report-Outs
Mr. Klein of the Department of the Interior's U.S. Geological Survey mentioned a well-attended and well-received environmental health studies workshop held in McAllen in April, which is part of a pilot effort they hope to see move up the Rio Grande Valley (he had both English and Spanish fact sheets for the Board and guests). Also, the department had one of its semiannual field coordinating committee meetings in Yuma in May, and a major topic of concern and discussion dealt with the Department of Homeland Security now being the lead agency on the Arizona Border Control Initiative. There was concern that DHS was providing a few rather rigid dictates to the department and to the people on the border who were going to be looking at illegal cross tracking, and that there was going to be quite a bit of negligence and looking the other way when it came to the environmental laws and requirements that are in place. There has been a great deal of work in the past couple of months, and Mr. Klein said he has just learned that there will be training for Border Patrol agents in charge on the Arizona section of the border to begin to take greater cognizance and appreciation for natural and cultural resources. There is headway being made, some consensus and understanding of the need for environmental sensitivity.
Mr. Muskovitz of the Department of State's Office of Mexican Affairs said the President has signed an Executive Order that sort of lays the way for reform of the BECC and NADBank boards, which will be combined into a single board with five U.S. and five Mexican representatives. There will be representatives from the State and Treasury departments and EPA, plus a state representative and a local/NGO/public representative. EPA will maintain an absolute veto on projects that do not meet environmental standards, and Treasury will have an absolute veto on projects that are not financially viable. They are still in discussion as to whether the chair on the U.S. side will rotate among the three federal agencies. Mr. Ganster asked about public participation and buy-in with the new board, and Mr. Muskovitz said the intention was to maintain public participation and have as transparent a process as possible. Mr. Dos Santos asked about ongoing dialogue on the water debt. Mr. Muskovitz said they had yet to reach a commonality of view.
Mr. Allen of the Malpai Borderlands Group told the Board about a recent visit by six Masai tribesmen from Kenya and Tanzania. They had a lot in common with Arizona and New Mexico cattlemen, such as the loss of open space or available grazing land. There was a May 9 New York Times article about the visit. The Malpai group does periodic workshops for ranchers all over the West on the group's collaborative approach to natural resource management and its rapport with government agencies and environmental groups. The next one will be in the fall with a group of ranchers from Chihuahua, and it will be the first workshop done in Spanish.
Water Management Presentations (continued)
Presentation 4: Desalination, Conservation and Public Utilities
Genoveva Gomez, Director of Water/Wastewater Engineering and Operations,
Brownsville Public Utilities Board, representing General Manager and
CEO John Bruciak
Ms. Gomez discussed some of Brownsville's water strategies. The
Southmost Regional Water Authority was established by legislation in
1981 to meet regional water needs but was dormant until around 2000,
when several local water districts met on alternative ways to look at
water issues. There was a desire to form an authority, so Southmost was
reestablished. In 1985, Brownsville expressed some interest in desalination,
and in 1995 it did a brackish-desalination pilot study in conjunction
with the Texas Water Development Board. The cost of desalination of brackish
groundwater is comparable or less than surface water, and there is more
water available. The projected cost was $20 million with a capacity of
20 million gallons per day. The first phase of the desalination plant
is a 7.5 million gallons per day capacity, and there are two phases still
to go for a total capacity of 22.5 million gallons. They are using economies
of scale, Ms. Gomez said: By taking the regional approach, they will
be able to get help from such entities as the Texas Water Development
Board, though they did not go that route in the first phase because of
an aggressive time schedule. The Brownsville PUD is also doing a feasibility
study on a saltwater plant at the Brownsville Port (which would be built
in conjunction with a power plant), and a study on reclamation and reuse.
Questions and Comments
Ms. Sutley: How is the brine disposed of for the brackish water? Also,
how dependent on the cost of water and drought conditions are the economics
of the plan? Is it sustainable for the long term?
Ms. Gomez: Behind the plant there is a drain ditch about 200 or 300 feet
from the plant, and we received a permit from TCEQ to discharge that
water in there. It goes into the San Martin Lake (already a saline lake),
which is close to Brownsville Port, and then it goes into the sea. We
had two water plants before we built the brackish water plant. Both were
20 million gallons and at close to 60 percent capacity. So we were already
looking at other ways to either expand or build a new plant. You can
build a new plant and buy all the water rights you want, but if the water
is not available you are not going to be able to produce any water. We
looked at the brackish water plant because it was more cost-efficient
than seawater.
Mr. Ganster: Were any discussions held with Matamoros or Tamaulipas
as possible partners?
Ms. Gomez: Not for the brackish water plant, because of the aggressive
schedule. We have been working a lot with Mexican entities on the Weir
project, and on the desalination project we did discuss the option of
working with the Mexican entities and providing them water in the future.
As of right now we decided to stay within the U.S. and maybe later do
a regional approach. Again, it is just a feasibility study.
Mr. Varady: How much brackish water is there? How long would it take
to deplete desalinating it at this rate?
Ms. Gomez: The study that was done only looked at 30 years, but it showed
that at the rate we are going, 7.5 million gallons a day, it could be
up to 900 years. That could be affected as you pump deeper and as other
entities start tapping into the aquifer.
Mr. Dos Santos remarked how interesting it is to see a small community
like Brownsville undertake all these efforts. Was there an assessment
for long-term planning? What is behind it all?
Ms. Gomez: The Brownsville PUD has always been proactive. These studies
were done in the 1990s, and this time they did not have much choice—they
needed to either build a new plant or expand existing plants, and with
the drought they could not count on the water being there. Also, the
governor has been pushing for desalination and brackish water plants.
Mr. Dos Santos also asked about an effluent project the PUD is looking at, with something like golf courses as end users, and wondered if it is possible to deliver to agriculture and have its use deferred. Mr. Ramirez said the current law in Texas does not allow reclaimed water on food products, only for grass, industrial purposes, power plants, etc. Those regulations can be amended. Ms. Gavin said such water cannot be put on food crops in New Mexico either.
Ms. Sutley said that many reclamation and conservation projects in California have been funded by taxpayers through bonds and through their water rights.
Presentation 5: Lower Rio Grande Water Rights: Historical and International Aspects
Glenn Jarvis, Law Offices of Glenn Jarvis
Mr. Jarvis, who has been involved in Texas water law for more than 40
years, offered a history of water in the area from the Civil War era
to the present. The Rio Grande was an interrupted flow initially, with
very low and very high flows, and that has had both legal and economic
consequences. Shortages began in the 1880s as development increased,
but treaties between Mexico and the United States did not address water
or water rights until the 1906 Convention, in which it was agreed that
Mexico would receive 60,000 acre-feet per year in exchange for release
of its claims against the United States for lack of water in the area.
The 1944 treaty followed, which included provisions for Mexico to deliver
350,000 acre-feet per year averaged over a five-year period. The treaties
of 1906 and 1944 were based on irrigation as opposed to municipal use,
which at that time was not an issue. The dams and reservoirs built
from the 1944 treaty were really for flood control. In Texas, disputes
during a drought in the 1950s triggered the Big Valley Water Suit,
litigation that involved 3,000+ parties and at least 200 lawyers. Texas
passed the Adjudication Act of 1967 as a result, and water rights have
been adjudicated in all areas except a segment in the El Paso upper
reach, which is now pending and is very complex because it involves
the international aspects of water deliveries to Mexico. In September
2002 there was a treaty violation when Mexico was about 1.4 million
behind in its 1944 treaty obligations. The area has shown billions
of dollars of losses brought about by lack of water, with a ripple
effect from farmers to those who provide farmers with equipment and
services. The region has diversified enough that it was not felt too
much, but it has impacted the area quite a bit.
Questions and Comments
Mr. Sutley: The treaties and adjudication also predate some environmental
laws, such as the Endangered Species Act. How does the system deal
with that?
Mr. Jarvis agreed that the legal infrastructure came long before environmental
laws and concerns. There are some lawsuits and legislation going on.
Mr. Ramirez: A battle wages in Texas now over who controls effluent,
and some have suggested there should be another adjudication over return
flows. What are your thoughts on that?
Mr. Jarvis: I do not think you are going to have a reallocation. It will
be done recognizing a property rights and a water right, as opposed to
taking the water rights back and reallocating them. In Texas it was learned
prior to Senate Bill 1 that many of the water rights were granted based
on return flows. Downstream water rights can be affected with either
direct or indirect reuse, and the environment gets involved with it because
environmental flows depend on return flows. It is a complex issue.
Mr. Dos Santos thanked Mr. Jarvis for "the most complete description of the history of how these various pieces of water law or water compact law fit together" and asked his advice on how to improve binational water management. Mr. Jarvis encouraged joint management of the whole basin. He praised the real-time data coming out of the Water Master Program and the sharing of data. He also stressed the importance of managing groundwater.
Public Comment Session
Elvira Ries, a McAllen resident, said she was concerned about children being sent to Mexico without supervision and the lack of supervision in general with parents having to work late. She wishes schools could be open later to help. The lack of supervision and resources may be boosting the high-school dropout rate, which is increasing especially among Hispanics. Also, Ms. Ries said she is concerned about interference with legal travel between Mexico and the United States. She met a man in McAllen traveling from Mexico on a three-day pass who returned because he was scared immigration authorities might take his papers. She hoped the Board could help take her concerns to the top level.
Water Management Presentations (continued)
Presentation 6: Environmental Flow Protection: Protecting Our Rivers, Bays and Estuaries
Randy Blankinship, Lower Laguna Madre Ecosystem Leader, Coastal Fisheries
Division, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department
Recent rainfall might have taken water off the front burner for many
people, but Mr. Blankinship said as much diligence is needed now in planning
as when water was scarce. A healthy ecosystem is vital and very important
to all economic sectors in a region. Recent studies have shown that sport
fishing in the Laguna Madre region has an economic impact exceeding $222
million annually, commercial fishing $63 million, and birding or wildlife
watching $100 million. Plants and ecosystems that had developed in the
delta have, with the flood control of the dams, shrunk toward the river.
The clearing of land for agriculture has also reduced the amount of habitat.
Environmental flows are those flows that keep a river a river as we know
it, flows adequate in quantity and quality to support shrimp, crabs,
fish, mollusks and vegetation. Associated declines in water quantity
and quality within the Rio Grande have precipitated declines in diversity
of border species of fish and wildlife. Also, there are unreliable contributions
from the Rio Conchos due to treaty issues. A couple of state initiatives
are under way for dealing with these issues, such as the Senate Bill
1 planning process. Many innovative alternatives are needed, and some
encouraging things are happening. First is recognition of the problem.
At the 2004 Valley Water Summit, a survey revealed that the majority
believe the best thing to do is increase overall water supplies through
conservation, implying that if you are going to save water you are going
to leave it in the river. There is also the mechanism of the Texas Water
Trust, where unused water rights can be placed so they are not lost for
in-stream flow purposes.
Questions and Comments
Ms. Sutley: Is there any dedicated water supply for wildlife refuges
along the Rio Grande?
Mr. Blankinship: Through the process of creating the refuges, the U.S.
Fish and Wildlife Service bought water rights associated with much of
the property it acquired. They have been combined into one account and
can be used at multiple places.
Presentation 7: Rio Grande Restoration Projects Upstream
Tyrus Fain, President, Rio Grande Institute
Mr. Fain: The Rio Grande Institute is a nonprofit 501(c)3 education and
research organization based in Marathon, Brewster County, Texas, in
existence since 1998, when it hosted a meeting of state and federal
agencies and NGOs. That led to the formation of the Forgotten River
Action Committee, a multi-jurisdictional informal working group that
gradually began engaging U.S. and Mexican federal and state agencies.
With this emerging partnership, they were trying to carve out a kind
of binational cooperation that would be fairly limited to a manageable
issue in a selected area. They settled on the proliferation of tamarisk
in the Colorado Canyon and the Boquillas Canyon. Managers already knew
each other, and language was not much of a problem. So in many ways
it was a purposefully small bite. With almost six years of planning,
funding from the Meadows Foundation and the World Wildlife Fund, the
aid of a Mexican government study on tamarisk eradication and re-vegetation,
the cooperation of research institutes, and help from the Texas Center
for Service Learning, they are fairly confident that by 2006 they will
have the infestation under control and have some degree of treated
re-vegetation. Through a parallel study they are still looking at alternatives
to their approach (the Garlon swab) in the canyons, such as aerial
spraying and the introduction of tamarisk's natural predator,
the Asian leaf beetle.
Mr. Fain said the group recommends that funds to address the problem
not be restricted to one country or the other: You cannot control an
invasive weed on one side of the river. He also stressed the importance
of getting a binational assessment of the whole management resource preservation
situation in this stretch of the river. In light of the Supreme Court's
recent ruling on NAFTA and truck emissions, he was thinking back on NAFTA
and the agreement calling for a transboundary environmental impact assessment
(TEIA) that would always take place when any action on one side would
affect the other. What ever happened to the TEIA commitment?
Questions and Comments
Mr. Muskovitz and Ms. Borja discussed some of the state vs. federal
impediments for both countries on TEIA.
Ms. Alcala asked about infestation of African cane and the Garlon swab.
Mr. Fain said he would put her in touch with Mark Briggs, an expert on
the subject.
Ms. Spener suggested a Board recommendation to support invasive species
control and asked about the status of the La Linda Bridge as part of
an effort to create a binational eco-tourism hub. There is not any port
between Presidio and Del Rio at this point.
Mr. Fain: The Rio Grande Institute is involved greatly in that, in partnership
with a Mexican nonprofit. We now own part of the bridge and, along with
Brewster County and the governor of Coahuila, are extremely involved
in trying to get it reopened. It is up to Homeland Security and the Mexican
authorities to address it. The Texas Legislature passed a resolution
calling for the bridge's reopening. The stars are all lined up;
it is just a question of somebody making them shine.
Mr. Klein: I would like to see numbers dealing with the amount of water
reclaimed from the eradication of tamarisk. The main benefit I have seen
is minimizing salination of the soil and replanting cottonwood, which
has just as high a consumptive use of the groundwater but creates a more
favorable habitat.
Mr. Fain agreed that the numbers tossed around for savings are often
exaggerated and said they are not couching their project with the notion
that it is going to make the Rio Grande flow again.
Consejo Report-Out
Andres Ochoa, Northeast Consejo, State President for the Engineering
and Environmental Society, Ciudad Victoria, Tamaulipas
Mr. Ochoa brought names, contact information, agendas, minutes and some
agreements of Mexico's Consejos to share with the Board. When it
is complete (scheduled for October), he will send a copy of the white
book that details their activities and recommendations. He detailed some
current water issues facing the Mexican boards, which included restructuring
concerns and the impact of commercial fishing in the Sea of Cortes. One
worry is the decreased resources that will happen with the extension
of the border area to the 300-kilometer range. As a result, there has
been a prioritization of zones and projects. They are also looking at
the high basins for water harvesting that are going to get to the Rio
Grande. One worry he has about Border 2012 is that there should be consultants
from the most important cities in the border area; now, they are coming
from wherever they are appointed.
Mr. Ganster asked if they could share a draft of their recommendations before the white book is finalized, so the Board could see them before it completes its report. Mr. Dos Santos repeated the request, and Mr. Ochoa did not think sharing the information would be a problem.
Mr. Muskovitz offered more details on the extension to the 300-kilometer range in terms of primarily grant areas and lending areas. Mr. Dos Santos said if the BECC is expected to conduct public process for a greater number of projects because of the expansion of the region, it will either require greater resources or happen at the expense of something else.
Other Business
Mr. Dos Santos announced that the terms of Karen Chapman, Ed Ranger and Nancy Sutley were ending after this meeting. He also said Administrator Mike Leavitt had sent the Board a response on its report on children's environmental health. Ms. Koerner said the Board was being included in a general government survey of advisory committees to get feedback on their effectiveness, and she asked everyone to take a few minutes to fill out the survey. Also, television crews from Univision and Telemundo interviewed Mr. Dos Santos and Ms. Koerner.
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Day 2 – June 10, 2004
Business Meeting
Membership Matters
Ms. Koerner shared a letter from Ms. Chapman, who could not attend this
meeting. Ms. Chapman wrote that she comes away from her time on the
Board with a more rounded view of border projects. She praised the
Board's ability to rise above political winds. Mr. Dos Santos said Ms.
Chapman and the other outgoing Board members would receive
plaques, and Ms. Koerner distributed pins to the new Board alternates
as an official welcome.
Approval of the Minutes
The minutes of the Feb. 24-25 Washington, DC, meeting were approved with
two spelling changes.
Indicators of Effectiveness for the Board
Mr. Ganster provided
an update on his ongoing look at indicators of the Board's effectiveness.
Much of what he had suggested requires a certain amount of staff time,
and there needs to be a balance between
the information on what the Board is doing and the ability to track it.
An easier way of tracking involves indirect measures and anecdotal information.
Some non-systematic but generally effective ways of tracking are when
the Board appears in the press, the impact of the meetings, who comes
to them, etc. Ms. Koerner recommended that they continue this qualitative
tracking until they can find an efficient way to do it more quantitatively.
She asked members to let her know when they see a mention in the press
or hear a reference in another program. Mr. Varady wondered if the current
advisory committee poll would reveal whether other boards do self-evaluations
and what their methodologies might be. Mr. Cronin mentioned the environmental
indicators being developed for Border 2012, which Ms. Koerner said is
a different kind of program whose indicators might not be appropriate
for an advisory board.
Mr. Ganster raised the issue of the effectiveness of the annual report, which requires so much effort and staff time to prepare. Is it really the best use of the Board's time? Would a series of short recommendations throughout the year be better? Ms. Koerner and Mr. Dos Santos said the requirement to generate an annual report is in the enabling legislation, but that it could be interpreted in many ways. They suggested the topic be revisited at a future meeting.
Mr. Ramirez said he found the exchange of information at the meetings incredibly valuable and wondered if there might be greater importance in them than in the written report. Could the report be streamlined to make it a direct set of recommendations? Mr. Varady said the Administrator's response did not make it seem like the report had a real resounding impact, and the Board needs to look at other ways of trying to influence the process. Ms. Sutley had mixed feelings about the reports, which provide a focus every year that helps the Board come together and operate in a fairly cohesive manner. Also, the audiences for the report will only pay as much attention to it as they want to, and she doubted changing the vehicle would change that.
Distribution of Seventh Report
Ms. Koerner said reports would be sent to Mexico's Consejos, using
the contact information provided by Mr. Ochoa. Ms. Alcala said fellow
attendees at a March Mexico City conference on Mexicanos en el Exterior
were very interested in the report. Ms. Koerner said they were working
with people in the El Paso office and the San Diego border office to
do a sort of generic mailing to complement the targeted mailing that
has been done.
Mr. Dos Santos said the report has been a centerpiece for a lot of work going on in Arizona and Sonora: It is the reason education, health and environmental people in those two states are coming together to work on children's environmental health issues, which are also a top priority for Arizona's governor. Mr. Ramirez hoped the Board would talk about such impacts when they revisit the issue of the report's effectiveness.
Good Neighbor Board Member Report-Outs (continued)
Mr. Cronin of the Tohono O'odham Nation discussed the work of the two tribal border environmental coordinators and provided an overview of current projects throughout the border, such as a water needs assessment being done in the Baja area among seven tribal communities and perchlorate concerns in the Colorado River. (Mr. Klein said they needed to be careful when talking about sources for perchlorate, a naturally formed mineral as well as a contaminant.)
Mr. Cibas of New Mexico's Environmental Department discussed the gradual implementation or participation under the Border 2012 information process of task forces and workgroups. An interesting finding has been the differences in rural and urban task forces: Some of the big problems are in rural areas, while most of the attention is focused on urban areas. His department is involved in several programs, including teaching children about surface movement of contaminants with ant-farm models, harvesting rainwater, and implementing a GIS project to enable local communities to better understand what is happening in their area.
Ms. Spener detailed some of the projects of the IBWC, which include work on providing secondary treatment at the South Bay International Wastewater Treatment Plant; the donation of a bulldozer to Naco, Sonora, to reduce risk of fire in the landfill and subsequent air quality problems; an environmental impact statement for management of a controversial canalization project downstream from Percha Dam, as well as efforts to bring disagreeing parties to the table to find common ground; and flood preparedness work.
Ms. Borja said TCEQ is working on the Border Governors Conference set for Aug. 9-10 in Santa Fe. On Border 2012, they are trying to reduce the number of task forces (17 from two workgroups) and encourage more fix-it proposals as opposed to study-it proposals. They have started a new volunteer water quality, cleanup, public-outreach education and awards-recognition program called Friends of the Rio Grande, which is going to partner with IBWC.
Mr. Mampilly said the Office of the Americas is in the final stages
of recruitment for a new director. For the U.S./Mexico Border Health
Commission, plans are under way for binational health week in October.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently underwent a major
transformation, turning once autonomous centers into collaborative centers.
Ms. Gavin detailed Doña Ana County's submission for Border
2012, which include a bilingual pesticide safety education project for
farm workers and their families. They have been having air quality meetings
from the Air Quality Bureau out of Santa Fe because there are new standards
for New Mexico being presented in June. There is a study under way of "this
weird dust" in Sunland Park, Chihuahua and Northern New Mexico.
Mr. Dos Santos said the "strange dust cloud" had also been
detected moving over Tucson in the evening.
Mr. Ganster said that in California looking at water has evolved to watershed management. He is now involved in the Tijuana River Watershed Border 2012 task force, doing a baseline analysis and pulling together data on a binational watershed, as well as pulling together a binational advisory group. They are in the process of writing up a draft vision for the watershed to be presented in early August. A step that remains is to figure out what kind of administrative mechanism is needed to implement some sort of binational watershed management plan.
Mr. Luthans said there are a number of Border 2012 task force meetings of water and wastewater infrastructure detailed in the Round-up. In order to build more of a relationship between EPA and SEMARNAT, there is now a jointly hired staff person to work in the Nuevo Leon delegados office as a Border 2012 liaison.
Mr. Smith said Sony is on the board of the Rechargeable Battery Recycling Corporation, which installed 30,000 collection bins for cell phones on Earth Day last year in order to tap into their collection system for rechargeable batteries. Sony has also been doing an annual report, sort of a corporate social responsibility report, and it is a challenge.
Advisory Letters
Ms. Spener agreed to draft a letter to the President and Congress, copying
appropriate agencies, requesting that federal governments provide resources
to address invasive plant species in the border region, stressing binational
cooperation and making clear why the problem is particularly relevant
and important now in the border region.
Mr. Dos Santos said a message from the Board about using NADBank resources to beef up the BECC and stressing the importance of the BECC's technical assistance role would be particularly timely given that the two boards are about to merge. Ms. Sutley agreed that it was important to stress that BECC provides some unique services that NADBank is not capable of providing. Mr. Ganster added that, because of inadequate internal resources, BECC has used a variety of consultants, which has made it hard to develop good institutional capacity and memory. Mr. Varady said a letter should be phrased to it does not come off as threatening to one organization, and Ms. Borja suggested giving a heads-up to NADBank. Mr. Varady suggested including a statement supporting a rotating chairmanship. Ms. Koerner said it could be fit into a more overarching theme about enabling both institutions to continue to function at full capacity and have equal input.
Mr. Varady asked about drafting an op-ed piece from the letter. Ms. Koerner said that the Board, which reports to the President, had no precedent for such a thing, but that it could be looked into.
Breakout Sessions for Eighth Report
The workgroups met in separate parts of the meeting room for an hour
and then reported on their progress. Mr. Ganster said the institutions
group ended up with a goal of increased institutional capacity for
border spanning on water resources, under which could fit a number
of subjects, such as institutional capacity for trans-border watershed
management. They planned a conference call for July 8 and would have
new text then.
The data information workgroup thought it would be nice to also mention health issues in terms of appropriate planning and management, and the fact that the data gap should include that are necessary to put in place appropriate statements about health, said Mr. Klein. The group would also have new text after a conference call.
Ms. Gavin said the integration workgroup broke their topics into segments and would bring it together with a conference call July 2.
Mr. Ramirez and Mr. Smith had discussed private sector involvement, divided into what the private sector can do to sustain water supplies in border regions (sustaining supplies for its own benefit, investing in innovative technologies) and what border regions can do to attract the private sector (have a secure and certain water supply).
Looking at the three main workgroups, Mr. Cronin said that because tribes have issues that relate to all of them he was thinking about a tribal submission integrated into each chapter, which would also help make all readers aware of tribal issues.
Mr. Dos Santos said it would be helpful to present along the whole length of the border watersheds that are shared and depict them as possible planning units.
Meeting ended at 12:00 noon.
Field Trip
After the meeting ended, some Board members took an optional field trip
to the nearby Santa Anna Wildlife Refuge.
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