Ed Partington/DC/USEPA/US@EPA 09/05/2006 10:17 AM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] BASINS/HSPF Training Workshop Nov. 13 in Atlanta, GA See BASINS Training web site at http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/basins/training-atlanta.htm EPA/OW/OST/SHPD/RSTSSB/BASINS ------------------------------------------ "Kang, Sangjun" 09/05/2006 10:40 AM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc skang8@uiuc.edu bcc Subject [basinsinfo] Connecting surface to surface w/o reach Hello experts. I'm trying to connect surface runoff to another surface runoff without passing a reach. But it gives me errors and I'm stuck. Here is what I'm doing; I've manipulated open sequence, Mass Link and Schematic in a uci. In open sequence and input data editor, I've provided a watershed information without a reach. In Masslink, I've defined that (ML#1-3: existing definition) ML#4: IMPLND IWATER SURO-IMPLND IWATER SURI(instead of SURO) ML#5: IMPLND IWATER SURO-PERLND PWATER SURI(instead of PERO) ML#6: PERLND PWATER PERO-IMPLND IWATER SURI(instead of SURO) ML#7: PERLND PWATER PERO-PERLND PWATER SURI(instead of PERO) In schematic, I've connected IMPLND-IMPLND(4), IMPLND-PERLND(5), PERLND-IMPLND(6),and PERLND-PERLND(7). Does it make sense? Please gives me some insights about this!! I'd appreciated your help in advance.. Thank you, Sangjun, UIUC ------------------------------------------ jon butcher 09/05/2006 03:40 PM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject RE: [basinsinfo] Connecting surface to surface w/o reach The problem is in the linkage targets. Variables like PERLND PWATER SURI are output variables (summing the lateral inputs). You want to send your linked flows to IMPLND EXTNL SURLI and PERLND EXTNL SURLI. Don't forget that the operation for the source upland area must occur before the operation for the receiving area. Jon Butcher > -----Original Message----- > From: Kang, Sangjun [mailto:skang8@uiuc.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:40 AM > To: Private list for BASINS users > Cc: skang8@uiuc.edu > Subject: [basinsinfo] Connecting surface to surface w/o reach > > Hello experts. > > I'm trying to connect surface runoff to another surface > runoff without passing a reach. But it gives me errors and I'm stuck. > > Here is what I'm doing; I've manipulated open sequence, Mass > Link and Schematic in a uci. > > In open sequence and input data editor, I've provided a > watershed information without a reach. > > In Masslink, I've defined that > (ML#1-3: existing definition) > ML#4: IMPLND IWATER SURO-IMPLND IWATER SURI(instead of SURO) > ML#5: IMPLND IWATER SURO-PERLND PWATER SURI(instead of PERO) > ML#6: PERLND PWATER PERO-IMPLND IWATER SURI(instead of SURO) > ML#7: PERLND PWATER PERO-PERLND PWATER SURI(instead of PERO) > > In schematic, I've connected IMPLND-IMPLND(4), > IMPLND-PERLND(5), PERLND-IMPLND(6),and PERLND-PERLND(7). > > Does it make sense? Please gives me some insights about this!! > > > I'd appreciated your help in advance.. > > Thank you, > > > Sangjun, UIUC > > > > ------------------------------------------ Mark Bandurraga 09/06/2006 08:14 AM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] Opening for HSPF Modeler in Ventura County Watershed Protection District, CA Need HSPF Modeler: http://agency.governmentjobs.com/ventura/default.cfm? Salary to $6,225/mo for Eng III- Good benefits ------------------------------------------ "Kang, Sangjun" 09/17/2006 11:54 AM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc skang8@uiuc.edu bcc Subject [basinsinfo] Input and output from HSPF Dear experts, For my project, I've been using HSPF. Currently, due to the some unexpected amount of surface runoff over a single reach - 10,000 ac watershed (not a real watershed), I'm checking in total output from my model (Q output) if it is exactly same as total input to my model (Q input = a 24hr synthetic storm with "0" evaporation). For this, fist, I've set all initial storage (CEPS, SURS, UZS, LZS, RETS, SURS, VOL) "0". But it seems that input and output are not quite same (I'm checking in PLS>PERS, PLS>PERO, ILS>IMPS, ILS>SURO, RCH>VOL over a 10,000ac watershed in ac-ft scale). So, I'm quite wondering if it is okay to set all initial storage "0" in order to see Q input = Q output. and I'd appreciated any comments. Thank you, Sangjun ------------------------------------------ Bill Medina 09/18/2006 10:23 AM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] Temperature Can I model Changes in stream temperature with HSPF? Thanks for your advises, William Medina ------------------------------------------ "Curran, Joanna C" 09/18/2006 12:34 PM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] SWAT simulation date error So far I have not been able to find documentation of this error or how to resolve it. I am using SWAT through BASINS. When I try to ‘write output and run SWAT’ and put my information in the SWAT dialog box, I receive the error: “the simulation start date must be before nil.” I have tried lots of different dates, and none work. If anyone has any suggestions, I am happy to try. Thank you Joanna ----------------------------------------------- Joanna C. Curran, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Geography Texas State University San Marcos, Texas http://www.geo.txstate.edu/directory/faculty/curran/Curran.html ------------------------------------------ Kevin He 09/18/2006 04:47 PM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] Landuse Data Downloading Problem With BASINS Dear there, This is Kevin who is a Ph.D. student from UCLA. I met a problem when I was trying to download landuse data (BASINS GIRAS landuse) for my BASINS project. There's a little window showing "Processing Shape Files (Projecting/Merging in Progress)" . This windows was always there for over 40 hours, then I closed it. My initial guess is that the watershed may be too big. However, when I tried a much smaller watershed, the same problems appeared. Does it usually take so long to download the BASINS GIRAS landuse data? or is there any problem with my BASINS/ArcView installation? I will sincerely appreciate any suggestions and help. Best, Kevin He Ph.D. Student UCLA ------------------------------------------ "Kang, Sangjun" 09/19/2006 11:17 AM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] Input and output from HSPF Dear experts, For my project, I've been using HSPF. Currently, due to the some unexpected amount of surface runoff over a single reach - 10,000 ac watershed (not a real watershed), I'm checking in total output from my model (Q output) if it is exactly same as total input to my model (Q input = a 24hr synthetic storm with "0" evaporation). For this, fist, I've set all initial storage (CEPS, SURS, UZS, LZS, RETS, SURS, VOL) "0". But it seems that input and output are not quite same (I'm checking in PLS>PERS, PLS>PERO, ILS>IMPS, ILS>SURO, RCH>VOL over a 10,000ac watershed in ac-ft scale). So, I'm quite wondering if it is okay to set all initial storage "0" in order to see Q input = Q output. I'd appreciated any comments. Thank you, Sangjun ------------------------------------------ "Fang, Andrew F." 09/21/2006 09:03 AM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] Error message closing/opening BASINS project I delineated a watershed in BASINS and saved the project. An error message "Attempt to modify read-only index" appears whenever I close and re-open the project. It doesn't seem to affect anything so far. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that I don't have access rights to all the folders on my C drive where BASINS is installed. Is this message something I need to worry about and correct? Thanks! Andrew ==================== Andrew Fang, Ph.D. Watershed Planning & Stormwater Permitting Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality 707 N. Robinson P.O. Box 1677 Oklahoma City, OK 73101-1677 Tel: (405)702-8195 Fax: (405)702-8101 http://www.deq.state.ok.us ------------------------------------------ lei wang 09/21/2006 09:45 AM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject Reply: [basinsinfo] Error message closing/opening BASINS project Hi, Andrew, You can try to modify file's attribute to writeable. regards >From: "Fang, Andrew F." >Reply-To: "Private list for BASINS users" >To: "Private list for BASINS users" >Subject: [basinsinfo] Error message closing/opening BASINS project >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:03:13 -0500 > >I delineated a watershed in BASINS and saved the project. An error >message > >"Attempt to modify read-only index" > >appears whenever I close and re-open the project. It doesn't seem to >affect anything so far. I suspect it has something to do with the fact >that I don't have access rights to all the folders on my C drive where >BASINS is installed. Is this message something I need to worry about and >correct? > >Thanks! > >Andrew > >==================== >Andrew Fang, Ph.D. >Watershed Planning & Stormwater Permitting >Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality >707 N. Robinson >P.O. Box 1677 >Oklahoma City, OK 73101-1677 >Tel: (405)702-8195 >Fax: (405)702-8101 >http://www.deq.state.ok.us > >------------------------------------------ >You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > >To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to >lyris@lists.epa.gov >OR: >Use the listserver's web interface at >https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your >subscription. >OR >Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov >------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ------------------------------------------ Stephanie_Hood@URSCorp.com 09/25/2006 02:22 PM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] Adding Pollutants Experts, WinHSPF only has certain available pollutants. What is the best way to add pollutants such as COD and TKN to my model? Thank you, Stephanie Hood, E.I.T. ------------------------------------------ "Heberger, Matthew" 09/25/2006 02:38 PM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject RE: [basinsinfo] Adding Pollutants These are generally simulated as "Generalized Water Quality Constituents", or GQUALs. You'll be able to simulate most of the same dynamics with these (e.g. buildup-washoff, sediment loading, decay, etc.) Check the HSPF documentation for how to set these up in PERLND, IMPLND, and RCHRES. Best, Matt H -----Original Message----- From: Stephanie_Hood@URSCorp.com [mailto:Stephanie_Hood@URSCorp.com] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:23 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Adding Pollutants Experts, WinHSPF only has certain available pollutants. What is the best way to add pollutants such as COD and TKN to my model? Thank you, Stephanie Hood, E.I.T. ------------------------------------------ kevinhe@ucla.edu 09/25/2006 04:03 PM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] Creating WinHSPF Project Experts, I downloaded the landuse data from EDNA and generated corresponding shape file in ArcGIS, and further I added this landuse shape file to BASINS view. However, when I was trying create WinHSPF project from BASINS,I was asked to provide BASIN GIRAS landuse data file. Is GIRAS the only landuse file applicable in creating WinHSPF project? If not, how could I incorporate external landuse data to creat WinHSPF project? Sincere thanks, Kevin He ------------------------------------------ Troy_Naperala@URSCorp.com 09/26/2006 07:29 AM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject RE: [basinsinfo] Adding Pollutants Stephanie: TKN is organic nitrogen + ammonia. These N components can be simulated using the nutrient section of HSPF. Therefore, to compare HSPF output to observed TKN data you will need to add together your organic N and ammonia N model output. Depending on what you are simulating, and what your objectives are this may be overkill. On the other hand, it may be necessary if you are interested in nutrient cycling and algal growth. Regarding COD - GQUAL may be your only choice...Anyone know of another way? Good luck. Troy *************************************************************** Troy R. Naperala, P.E. Senior Project Engineer URS Corporation Architects, Engineers, Planners, Scientists 10850 Traverse Highway, Suite 2205 Traverse City, Michigan 49686 E-mail: Troy_Naperala@urscorp.com (Direct) (231) 932-7592 ext. 223 (Mobile) (231) 620-7083 (Fax) (231) 932-7594 Traverse City, Farmington Hills, Detroit, Grand Rapids This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you receive this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should not retain, distribute, disclose or use any of this information and you should destroy the e-mail and any attachments or copies. "Heberger, Matthew" "Private list for BASINS users" 09/25/2006 03:38 cc PM Subject RE: [basinsinfo] Adding Pollutants Please respond to "Private list for BASINS users" These are generally simulated as "Generalized Water Quality Constituents", or GQUALs. You'll be able to simulate most of the same dynamics with these (e.g. buildup-washoff, sediment loading, decay, etc.) Check the HSPF documentation for how to set these up in PERLND, IMPLND, and RCHRES. Best, Matt H -----Original Message----- From: Stephanie_Hood@URSCorp.com [mailto:Stephanie_Hood@URSCorp.com] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:23 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Adding Pollutants Experts, WinHSPF only has certain available pollutants. What is the best way to add pollutants such as COD and TKN to my model? Thank you, Stephanie Hood, E.I.T. ------------------------------------------ jferrari@al.umces.edu 09/26/2006 08:31 AM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc Private list for BASINS users bcc Subject Re: [basinsinfo] Creating WinHSPF Project Kevin, I am by no means an "expert", but I am going through the HSPF "learning curve" and have worked through getting WinHSPF to work using user supplied DEM and land cover data. You can import/use various land use coverages other than GIRAS. For example, I am using our own version of NLCD data for land use. Make sure your land use coverage is in the exact same projection as the BASINS project. If using grid data (my NLCD data is in grid format), use the BASINS Data->Add theme(Grid) drop down menu. Specify "Landuse(grid)". Add the theme to the BASINS view. THEN use the UTILITIES-> Land Use and Soil Definition menu to classify the image in a manner HSPF can recognize. Apparently general land use grids do not have all the attributes HSPF is looking for, and the Land Use / Soil Definition tool does this for you. Make sure when using this tool to have the "HSPF" button checked (not SWAT). When you are done with this utility, BASINS will add a new view, which will be your HSPFLandUseClass. When you launch WinHSPF this land use grid should be available (in addition to any GIRAS data you may have downloaded). I hope all above is technically correct, it is the method I used to add non-GIRAS land use data (grid format). I'm assuming if you add vector coverages instead of grid the procedures should be similar. Hope this helps! Joe Ferrari > Experts, > > I downloaded the landuse data from EDNA and generated corresponding > shape file in ArcGIS, and further I added this landuse shape file to > BASINS view. However, when I was trying create WinHSPF project from > BASINS,I was asked to provide BASIN GIRAS landuse data file. Is GIRAS > the only landuse file applicable in creating WinHSPF project? If not, > how could I incorporate external landuse data to creat WinHSPF project? > > Sincere thanks, > > Kevin He > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > > Joseph Ferrari Faculty Research Assistant UMCES Appalachian Laboratory 301 Braddock Road Frostburg, MD 21532 ------------------------------------------ laurence picq 09/26/2006 07:37 PM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject RE: [basinsinfo] SWAT simulation date error Joanna, If I remember well, I had a similar error a few years ago. The problem came from the precipitation and temperature files that I inputted at the "weather data definition" stage. Their format was not exactly right. Although I did not get an error message at the time I loaded them, it turned out that SWAT could not read them and dates did not show in the "Run SWAT" box. Once I finally got the format right, the date problem in the Run SWAT box was fixed. Hope this helps Laurence Picq Kieser & Associates Kalamazoo, MI >From: "Curran, Joanna C" >Reply-To: "Private list for BASINS users" >To: "Private list for BASINS users" >Subject: [basinsinfo] SWAT simulation date error >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:34:17 -0500 > >So far I have not been able to find documentation of this error or how >to resolve it. I am using SWAT through BASINS. When I try to 'write >output and run SWAT' and put my information in the SWAT dialog box, I >receive the error: "the simulation start date must be before nil." I >have tried lots of different dates, and none work. If anyone has any >suggestions, I am happy to try. > > > >Thank you > > > >Joanna > > > >----------------------------------------------- > >Joanna C. Curran, Ph.D. > >Assistant Professor > >Department of Geography > >Texas State University > >San Marcos, Texas > > > >http://www.geo.txstate.edu/directory/faculty/curran/Curran.html > > > > > >------------------------------------------ Amanjot Singh 09/27/2006 08:46 AM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] redefining landuse in WinHSPF Hi Basins users, I am using WinHSPF through Basins interface. While generating project through ArcView, I didn't split land use categories for permeable and impermeable portions i.e. how much portion of a particular land use is pervious and how much impervious. Is it possible to split pervious/impervious percentages in WinHSPF without directly editing UCI file? Thanks, amanjot Amanjot Singh, Ph.D., P. Eng. School of Engineering University of Guelph Guelph, ON, Canada N1G 2W1 Ph. (519) 824 4120 Ext. 52153 (Work) (519) 822 2784 (Home) Fax (519) 836 0227   ------------------------------------------ Anurag Mishra 09/29/2006 12:59 PM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] Technique to read data from wdm files to a database Greetings, I have developed a utility to conduct Monte Carlo simulations with HSPF. I use TSPROC (time series processor) to read the output from wdm files to a text file and then to a database. I was wondering if anybody knows how to read the data from wdm files directly to adatabse. This will save me a step in my simulations (will save about 2 seconds per simulation, which means 3-4 hours in 10000 simulations, and reduce four input files to my utility). Also if somebody has ideas about using entirely different method, like DSS, I can try that too. I would appreciate any help. Thank you Anurag Mishra ------------------------------------------ xmliu@zju.edu.cn 09/29/2006 03:16 PM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject [basinsinfo] error in SWAT running Hi, I have a problem when performing SWAT model. An error message "Not found CA401.dbf" appeared every time when I wrote the soil input files. I have tested different watersheds, the result were the same except the different "not found CA853.dbf"...... appreciate for your kind help. xingmei ------------------------------------------ Steve Kloiber 09/29/2006 04:11 PM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject Re: [basinsinfo] error in SWAT running I'm pretty sure that this means you haven't installed the soils files for California. The model comes with Texas, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania soils data files already loaded. You should chekc the SWAT website for the link to the soils files for other states. http://www.brc.tamus.edu/swat/doc_databases-soils.html Steve Kloiber, Ph.D., P.E. Environmental Analyst Metropolitan Council 230 East Fifth Street St. Paul, MN 55101 (651) 602-1056 steve.kloiber@metc.state.mn.us >>> xmliu@zju.edu.cn 09/29/06 03:16PM >>> Hi, I have a problem when performing SWAT model. An error message "Not found CA401.dbf" appeared every time when I wrote the soil input files. I have tested different watersheds, the result were the same except the different "not found CA853.dbf"...... appreciate for your kind help. xingmei ------------------------------------------ Yuri Kim 09/29/2006 04:48 PM Please respond to Private list for BASINS users To Private list for BASINS users cc bcc Subject Re: [basinsinfo] error in SWAT running Hi, I also faced that error once. Did you have 'soil database' of your study area, in your case maybe California, in your 'c:\Avswatx\AvSwatDB\AllUs\stasgo\?' If you did not you can download that data from this website. http://www.brc.tamus.edu/swat/doc_databases-soils.html I hope this can help you. Regards, Yuri xmliu@zju.edu.cn wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem when performing SWAT model. An error message "Not found > CA401.dbf" appeared every time when I wrote the soil input files. I have tested > different watersheds, the result were the same except the different "not found > CA853.dbf"...... > > appreciate for your kind help. > > xingmei ------------------------------------------